Gould's Bulldogs Problem, Wayne's Longevity & Ivan Cleary's Legacy

Paul Kent and Paul Crawley debate where Ivan Cleary now sits among rugby league's greatest coaches after reaching 500 games, and why long-term coaches like Wayne Bennett and Craig Bellamy have survived where others burn out.

Plus, Kenty on the state of modern media, social media defamation, Bennett's power game, Penrith's pathways, Melbourne Storm's reported $150 million valuation, Bellamy's true value, and whether Gus Gould's Bulldogs project is starting to repeat the Penrith warning signs.